Kerry O'Shea Gorgone

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Rob Zaleski on Medieval Weaponry, Murder Mysteries, Martial Arts Movies…and Gnomes

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Whodunnit, was it the gnomes? In this episode, we talk with Rob Zaleski, digital content and brand manager at ShippingEasy and former member of Team MarketingProfs, to learn about his expert “ghosting” skills, his best friends Edgar and Winston, and his flair for playing dramatic roles at murder mystery dinners. 

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In this episode of Punch Out with Katie and Kerry we learned:

  • The difference between gnomes and leprechauns
  • The backstory to Rob ghosting Kerry
  • Rob’s medieval weaponry collection
  • Murder Mystery and Medieval costumes
  • Rob’s collection of Martial arts DVDs

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Want to know more about Rob? You can find him at:

Website: https://keepmarketingweird.com/

Twitter: @robzie_

This episode of Punch Out with Katie and Kerry is sponsored by Trust Insights.

Are you feeling less than confident in your marketing metrics, looking for some help automating your tasks, or wondering what topics are most important to your audience? Using machine learning and artificial intelligence, Trust Insights will help you light up your dark data. Visit trustinsights.ai/punchingout for more information.

Punch Out with Katie and Kerry (#PunchingOut) is the show that dives deeper into topics you care about. We don’t ask the questions everyone else does. We get to the real insights (and the weird hobbies, the guilty pleasures, the secret side hustles…the good stuff)! We find out what really makes your favorite people tick. Punch out with Katie and Kerry!

Have a cool hobby or side interest you want to talk about on Punch Out with Katie and Kerry? Let us know:
Web: http://punchoutwithus.com
Email: punchoutwithus@gmail.com
Hosts: Kerry O’Shea Gorgone (@KerryGorgone) & Katie Robbert (@katierobbert)

Christopher Penn on Martial Arts, Deadly Weapons, and Spirit Animals

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Have you ever wondered takes to do a flying roundhouse kick or be able to predict the future by reading non-verbal cues? In this episode we interviewed Christopher S Penn to find out the answers to those questions and more. Chris is the co-founder and Chief Innovator of Trust Insights, co-host of the Marketing Over Coffee podcast, a keynote speaker, data scientist, and all around interesting guy. We talked about a variety of topics, none of which include Machine Learning or Artificial Intelligence.

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In this episode of The Punching Out Podcast we learned:

  • Which spirit animal Chris identifies with and why
  • Chris used to (and sometimes still) reads tarot cards
  • The event that made Chris change how he studied martial arts
  • Which weapons make the short list in Chris’ collection
  • Just how prepared for a zombie apocalypse Chris really is

Want to know more about Chris? You can find him at:

Trustinsights.ai | @trustinsights

Christopherspenn.com | @cspenn

Marketingovercoffee.com | @mktgovercoffee

This episode of the Punching Out Podcast is sponsored by Trust Insights.

Are you feeling less than confident in your marketing metrics, looking for some help automating your tasks, or wondering what topics are most important to your audience? Using machine learning and artificial intelligence, Trust Insights will help you light up your dark data. Visit trustinsights.ai/punchingout for more information.

The Punching Out Podcast (#PunchingOut) is the show that dives deeper into topics you care about. We don’t ask the questions everyone else does. We get to the real insights (and the weird hobbies, the guilty pleasures, the secret side hustles…the good stuff)! We find out what really makes your favorite people tick. Punch out with Katie and Kerry!

Have a cool hobby or side interest you want to talk about on the Punching Out Podcast? Let us know:
Web: www.punchingoutpodcast.com
Email: punchingoutpodcast@gmail.com.
Hosts: Kerry O’Shea Gorgone (@KerryGorgone) & Katie Robbert (@katierobbert)